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How Oregon PERS Got Into Such A Deep Hole

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One of the major issues with balancing the state budget in Oregon is the amount of money needed to make sure retired public workers get the pensions they were promised. 

PERS, the Public Employee Retiree System, needs more money to match what retirees expect with what has been saved for them. 

Tim Nesbitt knows PERS from both labor and management sides.  He worked for a couple of Oregon governors and once led the AFL-CIO in the state.  We pick his brain for some insights into how PERS got into a budgetary hole, and what it might take to dig out.  
 

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Geoffrey Riley is a graduate of the University of Missouri School of Journalism and has hosted the Jefferson Exchange on JPR since 2009. He's been a broadcaster in the Rogue Valley for more than 35 years, working in both television and radio.