Juniper must be good for something besides flavoring gin.
The woody plant grows easily in Oregon's high desert; a little too easily. Juniper has been encroaching on high desert ecosystems, and land managers want to cut it back a bit.
So there's an effort to find uses for juniper that go beyond using berries for gin and the rest for firewood.
Rancher Duncan Livingston has been taking part in juniper management experiments.
He and Oregon State University professor Scott Leavengood are our guests.