Richard Haass thinks a lot about the state of international relations in his role as president of the Council on Foreign Relations.
He wrote A World in Disarray before Donald Trump took office, and added some thoughts on the last year in a new paperback version of the book.
In short, the structures that guided the world out of World War II and away from World War III are now out of date, in Haass's estimation. He joins us with some ideas of how to construct a new way for countries and people to relate.