The numbers reported on the remaining elephants in Africa are grim. And it is entirely possible that the numbers are wrong, estimated too high.
Nelson Ting at the Institute of Ecology and Evolution at the University of Oregon took part in recently-published research that finds the number of a population of forest elephants 40 to 80 percent smaller than previous estimates.
Studying the animals directly is just one part of Ting's work; he is a biological anthropologist. And he is our guest in this month's edition of Curious: Research Meets Radio, our joint project with UO.