You can forgive someone for thinking we might do society a little better than we do now. And not just now, because people have frequently thought they could create better societies than the ones they felt stuck in.
There have been waves of such thinking in American history, including sects like the Shakers and other colonies and communes, profiled in Adrian Shirk's book Heaven Is a Place on Earth: Searching for an American Utopia.
The author got to know the subject well, because she and family members were searching for something better for themselves. Adrian Shirk joins us for a de-brief.