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Exchange Exemplar: Guiding A Relationship Through 'The Rough Patch'


"I want to grow old with you," people will say to a beloved life partner. At the beginning, maybe.

A lot of other things get said over the years, some of them downright hurtful. People and relationships evolve, and it takes some work to keep a couple together.

Daphne de Marneffe, a Bay Area psychologist, guides couples through the bad parts in a book called The Rough Patch: Marriage and the Art of Living Together. She offers a framework in our interview from 2018.

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The Jefferson Exchange is Jefferson Public Radio's daily talk show focused on news and interests across our region of Southern Oregon and Northern California. Angela Decker is the senior producer, Charlie Zimmermann is the assistant producer, and Geoffrey Riley hosts the show.