The Jefferson Exchange Team

Jefferson Exchange Team

The Jefferson Exchange is Jefferson Public Radio's daily talk show focused on news and interests across our region of Southern Oregon and Northern California. John Baxter is the senior producer, April Ehrlich is the producer and Geoffrey Riley hosts the show.

To contact the producers to pitch a segment idea or make a comment about the show, email them at or call 541-552-7075.


Kids who started kindergarten this fall will graduate from high school after the year 2030.  How different will the world be, especially the occupations of that world?  And how can educators get students ready for those occupations? 

Those are among the questions at a seminar next week (October 22-23) at Southern Oregon University called "Seamless and Future-Ready Education."  The education think tank Knowledge Works will play a central role in the discussions. 

William Smith

A region known for its fruit is bound to consume some of its own wares. So pears and apples should be in abundance this time of year, now that the fruits have come off the trees. 

Our food segment, Savor, focuses on apples and pears in this month's edition.  Food stylist Will Smith, our partner, offers up another recipe maximizing the flavor of the fruit. 

Donar Reiskoffer, CC BY-SA 3.0,

In some cases, the controls came too late, but humans finally figured out that they were taking too many fish out of the ocean.  So they put catch limits in place, selectively closed down some fisheries, and instituted catch shares.  Catch shares? 

Yep, that's the name for a system in which companies and people fishing effectively buy a share of the market.  It's not a monopoly, but it can be very hard to get into. 

Investigative journalist Lee van der Voo examined the system in the book The Fish Market: Inside the Big-Money Battle for the Ocean and Your Dinner Plate

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Benjamin Madley is a historian at UCLA, but he's a child of far Northern California.  His exposure to the Karuk people and homeland spurred his interest in Native America, colonization, and genocide. 

Madley's first book is An American Genocide: The United States and the California Indian Catastrophe, 1846-1873.  It lays out in detail what happened to the original people of California. 

Oregon Historical Society

Most of our discussions on Underground History concern events and people of the distant past.  Underground History is about archaeology, primarily.  But sometimes digging is not a literal thing, it can also be about researching interesting people in our own time. 

And that's the case with Don Horn's research into Walter Cole.  Horn is the founder of Triangle Productions in Portland; his company recently closed a show about Darcelle XV, the drag queen alter ego of Walter Cole, recognized by the Guinness Book of World Records as the oldest drag queen in the world (pushing 90). 

The Oregon Historical Society also created a display of Darcelle costumes from more than 50 years of performing. 


A frequent criticism of any political figure with a devoted following is that the figure is at the center of a "cult of personality."  Pay close attention to that word, cult, because Robert Jay Lifton says it's important. 

Lifton should know, he's a psychiatrist and a historian, and from his view, fanatical religious cults and extremist political movements are not far apart.  He explores the concept in depth in a new book, Losing Reality: On Cults, Cultism, and the Mindset of Political and Religious Zealotry


Ask anyone who lives or visits, October is a great month to visit the Southern Oregon coast.  October often features some of the best weather of the year at the water's edge. 

And the region is poised to take advantage, by adding to the attractions with "Live Culture Coast."  The series of events from October 18th to 27th range from writing and art workshops to "Redneck Wine Tasting & Bowling (actual name)". 

Oregon Coast Visitors Association is in the mix of organizations involved. 


Fires largely stayed away from the region through the summer, but no one doubts they'll be back.  And so debates and discussions about how to best manage open land for fire resilience continue. 

William Simpson wants to add an element to the discussion: wild horses.  His plan for a "Wild Horse Fire Brigade" would introduce wild horses to forest and field, in the hope that they will eat some of the smaller fuels that can lead to bigger fires. 


You know the person well, or did, long ago.  So it wouldn't be enough to just shake hands or nod when you say hello.  But a hug...? 

Hugs are good for sharing warmth and humanity, but we get in situations where we're just not sure a hug is appropriate.  It's a rich vein of thought that Emily Flake explores in the slender book That Was Awkward: The Art and Etiquette of the Awkward Hug

Side hugs?  Leaning-over hugs?  Short, barely-touching hugs?   There are so many variations, and so many questions. 

U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, by AlbertHerring, Public Domain,

There was a great deal of discussion during the recent smoky fire seasons of the need for prescribed burning.  It results in some smoke under controlled conditions outside of fire season, in the hope that there won't be a lot of uncontrolled burning IN fire season. 

And sure enough, even before fire season ended on the Oregon side, the Rogue River-Siskiyou National Forest began planning for its controlled burning season. 


Every county in the region got into the marijuana business when pot went legal.  But only Humboldt County can truly brag of a longstanding reputation for fine cannabis. 

Now the heart of the "emerald triangle" is gearing up to emphasize the "brand" of Humboldt cannabis. 


Two questions are often asked by people concerned about climate change: 1) what can I do? and 2) what will I have to do without? 

Andrew McAfee focuses on the second question in his book More from Less: The Surprising Story of How We Learned to Prosper Using Fewer Resources—and What Happens Next

McAfee is a big believer in the power of human innovation, and he points out that we already have cut resource use and pollution, while growing the economy and the population. 


People use banks, but they don't always trust them.  The last financial crisis and the "too big to fail" situation created concerns that have not dissipated. 

So some people favor the creation of public banks, which are not owned by investors and which loan local money for local concerns.  California just passed a public banking law, AB 857. 

The California Public Banking Alliance is thrilled, as is its North Coast affiliate, Cooperation Humboldt

Lupe Partida/Bareerah Zafar, UO Ethnic Studies students

Hurricane Maria's devastation of Puerto Rico was hard to watch from afar.  Especially for people with a connection to the region, like Alaí Reyes-Santos, an associate professor of ethnic studies at the University of Oregon and Puerto Rico native. 

She wanted to help out her homeland, but also so an opportunity to help her students understand the uneven distribution of economics and justice across ethnic groups.  So students studied the situation in Eugene, and a group of them traveled to Puerto Rico to bring relief supplies. 

The UO Puerto Rico Project is the focus of this month's edition of Curious: Research Meets Radio. 

Adam Jones, CC BY-SA 2.0,

The stories we told about America's westward expansion have changed in recent decades. 

The stories of brave pioneers triumphing over hostile Indians have generally been replaced with more nuanced and realistic accounts of white people moving west and red people being uprooted from their ancestral homes to make room. 

Jeffrey Ostler, history professor at the University of Oregon, takes an expansive look at the period in the book Surviving Genocide: Native Nations and the United States from the American Revolution to Bleeding Kansas.  The book stops at the Civil War; it is the first of two volumes. 

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The cannabis industry now legal in many states is still largely a cash-only business.  It's not that banks don't want to handle the industry's money; they can't by law. 

Since pot is still illegal in the eyes of the feds, no federally-backed financial institution can touch cannabis cash.  More than 300 members of the U.S. House voted to change that, with the passage of the SAFE Banking Act on September 25th. 

Count the Oregon Cannabis Association among the appreciative.  Now the question is... what will the Senate do? 

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Molly Best Tinsley was able to say goodbye to teaching, but not to writing.  Years after retiring from the civilian faculty at the U.S. Naval Academy, she's still cranking out works of fiction and non-fiction from her homes in Ashland and Portland. 

Her latest novel, just published, is Things Too Big To Name, a story of murder and madness and more. 


Rayon makes attractive and comfortable fabrics for clothing and bedding, but it is made through a harsh chemical process.  Over the years of its use, people involved in the manufacturing process have suffered serious illness and even death. 

Paul Blanc, MD, writes about the hazards of rayon manufacturing in the book Fake Silk: The Lethal History of Viscose Rayon.  He assured us that there is no danger to users of the end products. 

S.O. Pride Facebook page

It's been a big 50 years for LGBTQ rights in the United States.  The 1969 Stonewall Riot in New York (named for a club the police raided) set the stage for gay people to claim their human rights. 

Stonewall and the gains made since are celebrated at the events of Southern Oregon Pride, or "SOPride," this weekend in the Rogue Valley (October 11-12).  A kickoff party, a parade, entertainment and more are in the works. 

Can you even take a break from media in today's world?  Even if you shut off all the broadcast sources and your web browser, there's a good chance a friend will call or text or email with something new--and potentially outrageous--from the world outside. 

We relish the chance to talk about happenings in the media in a monthly segment we call Signals & Noise. 

Our regulars are from the Communication faculty at Southern Oregon University, Andrew Gay and Precious Yamaguchi.